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JMyste [Visitor] — Mon, 03 Sep 2012 16:51:08 +0000

Mr. Paine,

"Mr. Myste, I love you man, but you are incorrigible. Someday in the not too distant future, I will complete my response to your God accusations, my friend. "

I am not sure of which accusations you speak, my friend. I and God have no quarrel.

We are like This/this.

[My fingers overlapped shortly after I typed this.

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JMyste [Visitor] — Mon, 03 Sep 2012 16:48:49 +0000

Mr. Paine,

Here is my question to you:

"Is that a yes or a no?"

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Ryan [Visitor] — Fri, 31 Aug 2012 19:59:16 +0000

Is that a yes or a no?

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T. Paine [Visitor] — Fri, 31 Aug 2012 18:32:55 +0000

Ryan, I admittedly misunderstood your question.

It is my belief that we are each given a cross to carry… a burden with which we must each struggle to overcome. Whether that cross is same sex attraction, addiction to alcohol or drugs, meglo-maniacal narcissism, greed, lust, or any of the other seven deadly sins, they are there to teach us self-control. They are there to help us become better people, rather than simply to give in to the path of least resistance. These afflictions are actually gifts in so much as if we turn to family, friends, and ultimately to God in order that we may overcome them rather than succumb to them, we will have strengthened our characters accordingly.

Mr. Myste, I love you man, but you are incorrigible. Someday in the not too distant future, I will complete my response to your God accusations, my friend.

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JMyste [Visitor] — Fri, 31 Aug 2012 13:18:31 +0000

Is the desire to plunge a knife into a baby's chest the "contrary to God's design and will" or is it only the act?

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Ryan [Visitor] — Fri, 31 Aug 2012 03:37:17 +0000

It seems that my question was unclear. I'll try again:

Are homosexual desires "contrary to God's design and will" just like homosexual acts are?

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T. Paine [Visitor] — Thu, 30 Aug 2012 17:26:27 +0000

Not all desires should be acted upon, Ryan. There are times when our desires... our passions... should be over-ridden and self-control exercised for our own good and/or that of society.

My faith and traditional sociology tend to support that active homosexuality is deterimental to the basic family unit and society as a whole accordingly.

http://savingcommonsense.blogspot.com/2011/03/reason-passion-and-soul.html

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Ryan [Visitor] — Thu, 30 Aug 2012 06:15:26 +0000

T. Paine,

"...homosexual ACTS are contrary to God’s design and will."

What about desires?

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The Heathen Republican [Visitor] — Thu, 30 Aug 2012 00:26:55 +0000

I was first raised in the Methodist church. I am now an atheist. I'm not saying there's a connection; I'm just saying...

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T. Paine [Visitor] — Wed, 29 Aug 2012 15:59:39 +0000

Every last one of us is a sinner. As such, we ALL need to have access to God through our houses of worship in order that we may hopefully repent of our sins and try to live more in line with what He taught us. We should, in other words, hate the sins, but love the sinners. Being tolerant of what is clearly sinful in God’s eyes though makes us complicit in that sinful attitude. The Methodist Church’s teaching on the subject from 40 years ago was scripturally and theologically accurate for the Christian faith. God’s Truth is not relative. It is transcendent through time, just as He is. That doesn’t mean we put a screen door up to “keep out” our brothers and sisters with homosexual inclinations. Rather we lovingly embrace them while continuing to preach that homosexual ACTS are contrary to God’s design and will. If the Methodist Church no longer believes that is true, then my having left that church many years ago was indeed the right choice for me.