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Comment from: JMyste [Visitor]
First of all, ahahahahahahahah.

Secondly, the electorate did not remove the Tea Party from office, even after it saw how willing they are to use the debt limit to get what they want. That was a mistake.

In two years we have a chance to try again. We will go over some cliff, this one or another one, as long as Congress is willing to send us over one.

The Tea Party brags about their willingness to do wreck the U.S. economy if "needed." We elect them to do this for us. They are just doing their jobs.

01/15/13 @ 08:30
Comment from: F&B [Visitor]
The out-of-control drunken sailor democrat spending is wrecking the economy. The Tea Party is not.

Obama's and other democrats' spending is pushing us to the brink of a fiscal cliff. Those who are saying "Stop all the wasteful spending" are not.

You will never fix a problem unless you correct the root cause. The root cause is Obama, and the Obama-bot mentality that re-elected him.
01/15/13 @ 12:03
Comment from: F&B [Visitor]
It is a very interesting conundrum that you present Mr. Deming.

So, the "president" violates the law either way . . . great! When do impeachment proceedings start?
01/15/13 @ 12:06
Comment from: Trey [Visitor]
F&B,

There's this little thing called a budget that the House of Representatives is tasked with passing every year.

A budget is where spending gets to be ironed out. The House is where a budget needs to originate. The Republicans are, presently, in control of the House of Representatives. The Debt Ceiling is an inappropriate time to speak about spending cuts and to threaten default on our already incurred debt.
01/15/13 @ 16:05
Comment from: F&B [Visitor]
Yes Trey, still adhering to Dear Leader's party line I see.

And yes, the democrat controlled Senate has failed to pass a House approved budget for the last four years, while the democrats continue to spend like drunken democrats.
01/16/13 @ 12:38
Comment from: Trey [Visitor]
No, I'm adhering to reality.

The 2012 budget that passed the house was a party-line vote with not a single Democratic Congressperson voting for it. Do you know what that tells me? The majority did not pass this budget in good faith. Mr. Boehner had to have known how the vote would fall along party lines and further more should have been firmly aware of its likely fate within the Senate.

Basic Civics 101 tells you that once something passes the House it has to go to the Senate and then to the President. Knowing full well something wouldn't get past step number 2 and still claiming "Well we passed a budget" is disingenuous.

So, yes, I suppose you countered my point on the Budget. Perhaps I should have said that the House is tasked with passing a serious budget that is likely to be seriously considered by the other half of the Legislature and the Executive.

The point still stands that the the Debt Limit is an inappropriate device to argue for spending cuts.
01/16/13 @ 16:07
Comment from: F&B [Visitor]
The democrats, including Obama, are using every bit of political leverage they can find, including the "bully pulpit" and innocent children, to advance their agenda. It is certainly disingenuous to try to argue that republicans should not do the same.

The democrats want to play politics on every issue but then cry foul when the republicans play politics in return.

The budget process is initiated with a budget proposal from the president. The president's budget needs to take the opinions of the House into consideration if the president expects congress to seriously consider his budget proposal. Obama's unfounded arrogance apparently leads him to believe that he can completely disregard Congress' budgetary desires and ram his own desires down everyone's throat. He was mistaken.

The first two years of Obama's regime enjoyed democrat control of both the House and the Senate, and they still have not managed to pass a budget since April of 2009. Obama's 2012 budget proposal was voted down by the democrat controlled Senate 97-0. Not a single Senate democrat voted for Obama's budget. So, to blame the republicans is simply wrong. The democrats do not want a budget to restrain them - a budget would force some level of fiscal discipline. They also do not want a budget to be passed because it would clearly reveal how poorly they have governed.
01/16/13 @ 20:32

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