In response to Burr Deming's Breitbarting the Messiah
Literalists seem to perpetually miss the point of a single overarching law, involving the recognition of the value of all God's children. They look past a transcendent message that fulfills all spiritual law with the basics from which all laws flow. Love God, love all. Instead, they suggest that the old set of laws were valid, but morality was changed and the new set of laws replaced the old set. So new rituals, new arbitrary rules. New missing of the point.
Sometimes, when a friend puzzles out something I fumble in getting across, I'll apologize, "I forgot to translate into standard English from BurrSpeak."
T. Paine, not satisfied with the plain words of Jesus, helps him out by translating for the rest of us from MessiahSpeak.
Lots there about the hardness of the human heart and the everlasting value of love. Even something about folks who are asexual, having no sexual feelings. There is mention of those who forego sexual relations. And there is the explicit. Men who simply put their wives aside without cause, which was considered okay in those days, are simply wrong.
Anything in there about gay equality? Anything at all?
How about after Mr. Paine breitbarts the Lord?
- Burr Deming, September 13, 2012
I am wondering if dementia or some other malady is affecting my mental abilities because I am mightily confused. To use Mr. Deming’s term, my main thesis was brietbarted in my original post when I was accused of hating. (“I dunno. Still seems like more hate to me. Figs or not.”) That is ironic as I explicitly said in my post, “People with same-sex attraction though are God’s children, just as we all are, and should thus be treated with respect and dignity.” What a hateful thing for me to say! I further went on to state my agreement with the Catechism of the Catholic Church’s stance on the subject which stated, “They (gay people) must be accepted with respect, compassion, and sensitivity. Every sign of unjust discrimination in their regard should be avoided.” Yep, hate seems to be abounding there!
I think I was pretty clear when I made the point that we should indeed “love our neighbor” as Mr. Deming quoted our Lord as saying, but we can still be against gay marriage, as that is contrary to what Christ strongly implied in His teachings. Again, I think that the concept of gay marriage was totally foreign to people in the first century A.D. and therefore the need for Christ to explicitly condemn it would not have been necessary. That said, He did tell us what He thought constituted a valid sacramental marriage. It is that concept and His words which I quoted, in complete context. No Breitbarting was intended nor done in actuality.
Respectfully, Mr. Deming, I think that you are justifying your political stance on the subject of gay marriage because God does not explicitly say, “Thou shalt not support gay marriage.” I would further suggest that in trying to justify that position, you are violating the spirit of God’s law, if not the non-existent words of it. Yes, we are always supposed to love God and love our neighbor – even our sinful neighbors, of which EVERY LAST ONE OF US qualifies. That doesn’t mean we are supposed to accept or support sinful behavior though. Indeed I am pretty certain that God calls us to avoid sin and the near occasions of sin whenever and wherever possible. And surely you don’t really think that homosexual acts, whether in or outside of the context of a “marriage” is something of which our Lord approves, do you? Just curious, because I feel like I have fallen down the rabbit hole again, my friend.
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Isn't the real question "are homosexual acts something our Lord disapproves"?
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