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Comment from: T. Paine [Visitor] · http://savingcommonsense.blogspot.com
For a squishy moderate, I think Romney's pick of Ryan was indeed bold. After all, we will need a staunch conservative to help undo all of the damage done by the previously farthest left member of the United States Senate who ascended to his throne in the oval office.

My only regret is that Ryan isn't at the top of the ticket. ... oh and that he didn't have a more conservative VP at the bottom of the ticket.
08/13/12 @ 09:05
Comment from: The Heathen Republican [Visitor] Email · http://heathenrepublican.blogspot.com
I found all of the claims that this was a bold pick to be off the mark. I find Paul Ryan to be a safe pick. I think Rubio, Rice, or Christie would have been bold picks. Probably not in a good way.

Also, I think Democrats should be careful what they wish for. They're so giddy about Ryan, but I think by November 7th, they'll have reason to second-guess their initial reactions.
08/13/12 @ 19:02
Comment from: Burr Deming [Member] Email
Thank you, Heathen.

I'm inclined to agree with you on the boldness, or lack of it, of Governor Romney's choice of Paul Ryan, although I suspect our reasoning may differ.

History offers some support for your warning to those of us on the other side. Democratic glee about candidate Reagan in 1980, and Republican giddiness about candidate Clinton in 1992 might lead us to a bit of caution this year.

I especially remember a gathering of GOP leaders at the Bush White House laughing for the cameras at the idea of Bill Clinton posing an electoral threat.

If that pattern holds once again, I promise to write President Romney proposing a cabinet position for you. You should definitely lead one of the Departments our soon-to-be new Commander-in-Chief will abolish.
08/13/12 @ 19:53
Comment from: Jerry Critter [Visitor] · http://critterscrap.blogspot.com
For a conservative, Ryan sure voted for a lot of deficit-increasing spending. When it come to big government, he is all for it. Great conservative choice. A lifelong government employee.
08/13/12 @ 22:18
Jerry,

Of course, the perception of a candidate's experience is all about proper spinning--I mean framing.

No political experience? You bring a fresh perspective to the table.

Only political experience? You can get things done because you know the ins and outs of government.

No experience with the military or foreign policy? You aren't part of the "current mess."

Experience with the military or foreign policy? You are uniquely qualified.

And when it comes time to criticize the other candidate, you simply reverse the spin.

Now there's another:

Willing to reveal your tax returns? You're an honest man with nothing to hide.

Not willing to reveal your tax returns? It's no one's business anyway!

I hate the ridiculous and inconsistent propaganda. I just want to know the facts: the candidate's beliefs, his desires, how far he'll go to pursue those desires, his plans and how they'll get through Congress and be implemented, the fields in which he has experience, what he'll do to make up for inexperience, who his advisors will be, how he deals with the other political party, evidence of deception, etc.

None of this information is irrelevant; none of it is a "distraction." That is itself a spin. For those who are ideologically conflicted, information about a candidate's character might provide the incentive to vote for or against him. And even those who are not ideologically conflicted might think twice about voting for an unqualified or dishonest man.
08/14/12 @ 01:03
Comment from: Jerry Critter [Visitor] · http://critterscrap.blogspot.com
It is spin only when you don't agree with it. I notice that you did not say I was wrong. You want to know the facts? Look at what he has done, not at what he says. Do that and you will see Ryan as a big government, big spending republican and Romney as a liberal republican. Only their talk is conservative.
08/14/12 @ 09:02
Comment from: JMyste [Visitor]
I don't think Romney could have beat the incumbent with a like-minded running mate. For a conservative, he is a moderate and too much like Obama. He has no credibility when he criticizes ObamaCare and he sounds like a hypocrite every time he tries to play the "I a die hard conservative" card. He needed a conservative on the ticket to get the conservative base.

This may not work (or it may), but he really didn't have much of a change (in my opinion), and now he has changed the game in a way where we cannot know the outcome.

That is what he needed to do.
08/14/12 @ 09:52
Comment from: Burr Deming [Member] Email
Thank you JMyste.

My imagination tells me you are onto something. I do notice another pattern. It is as if Mr. Romney has dwelled for so long in contracts and technicalities that he sees the entire world as composed of contractual loopholes.

So if he uses "whereas" instead of "therefore" the voters will, like any friendly judge, let him get by with a technical interpretation.

So he carefully words his "endorsement" of the Ryan budget in in case he needs an extra-clause in a sub-paragraph that he can exercise, just as he would a tax option.

After all, voters will appreciate his interpretation as soon as he points out his carefully constructed language.
08/14/12 @ 11:21
Jerry,

I did not say that you were wrong because I do not disagree with you. I was criticizing propaganda in politics, not you.

However, Romney's political identity is a bit more questionable. What he did as a governor may not be what he would do as president. Uncertainty is justified because of his inconsistency.
08/14/12 @ 11:28
Comment from: Jerry Critter [Visitor] · http://critterscrap.blogspot.com
"Uncertainty is justified because of his inconsistency."

Agree!
08/14/12 @ 11:57

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