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"Attacking someone’s religion is really going too far. It’s just not the American way, and I think people will reject that."

Why are his religious beliefs sacred, but his economic and social beliefs are not? What if he derives his economic and social beliefs from his religious beliefs? Is Romney talking about religion in general (including Islam, Scientology, Buddhism, Hinduism, Wicca, etc.) or just Christianity and its variants? If it's acceptable to "attack" Scientology, why isn't it acceptable to attack Mormonism? If it isn't acceptable to attack Scientology, then what kind of ideology can we attack and why?

All of a politician's relevant desires and beliefs--and the religious kind are indeed relevant--should be up for discussion and criticism. Those who wish to avoid such scrutiny should not run for office.
07/19/12 @ 01:53
Comment from: T. Paine [Visitor] · http://savingcommonsense.blogspot.com
Jeremiah Wright and William Ayers are not just some over-blown right-wing distractions meant to falsely impugn Obama's integrity as the left would have us believe. Indeed, these folks and their associations with Obama were NOT properly vetted and put to rest after having properly done so by the press. If Obama had been the GOP’s candidate for office, I am certain that a far more thorough examination and subsequent disqualification of candidate Obama would have been the inevitable result.

William Ayers, first of all, was not limited to simply blowing up a statue on some campus. He was a co-founder of a communist revolutionary group called the Weather Underground and was personally responsible for planting bombs in a New York police department building, the U.S. Capitol, and the Pentagon due to his opposition to the Vietnam War. He was hardly some young punk thug that just made a few mistakes. When asked about his past in recent years, he stated that his only regret was that he didn't do more and that it wasn't more effective. His repeated shadowy links with Obama should have been more thoroughly investigated. Now that is not to say that I believe our president is also guilty of the same actions as Ayers, but the fact that there is a comradery there is disturbing to say the least. There has even been some credible speculation that William Ayers is the actual author of one of Obama’s books (I forget which one) based on the writing style and some other various factors. Regardless, Obama’s and Ayer’ association with each other is not as tangential and innocent as they would have you believe.

As for Jeremiah Wright, his racist and anti-American sermons were typically so incendiary that even former congregant Oprah Winfrey became too uncomfortable with her church and decided to leave it, rather than remain as Obama did and become associated with the decidedly non-mainstream rhetoric being spewed by the good reverend. Considering that Obama stated that Wright was a mentor and spiritual advisor for him while attending church there for twenty years, one has to assume that Obama found nothing objectionable there accordingly. This strikes me as an association that is hardly prudent or wise in the formation of the character of the man that was to become our president.
07/19/12 @ 09:38
Comment from: Burr Deming [Member] Email
Thank you, T. Paine.

I suppose it's possible that Barack Obama should share some tertiary responsibility for the thuggish behavior of Bill Ayres, if one assumes an extraordinary role on the part of the future President at age six.

And I guess we could assign blame to Obama for the segments of services we heard on Fox. I tend to agree with Mitt Romney on that point, though. I understand that Mitt was referring to the controversial teachings of his own church in the many years Mitt attended without protest. Did he, as a missionary, teach that black people were inferior and should not be admitted to leadership posts?

Frankly, I think assigning such blame is a little off center in most cases, but you may disagree.

The larger point on vetting for patriotism as a predictor of Presidential behavior is that it does seem a bit unusual at this point. Do we really need to speculate on whether Barack Obama, if he ever becomes President, will be willing to pull the trigger on bin Laden?
07/19/12 @ 11:24
Comment from: T. Paine [Visitor] · http://savingcommonsense.blogspot.com
Mr. Deming, you are mischaracterizing my statement. I in no way expect Obama to take ANY responsibility, tertiary or otherwise, for the terroristic behavior of Bill Ayers. That said, I do expect someone that is my president to not willingly associate with unrepentant domestic terrorists after the fact. A man of character, as I would hope a presidential candidate would be, should wish to distance himself as far as possible from such unsavory characters; not start out a political career and fundraiser in this terrorist’s home.

As for the segments of Wright’s “religious” services heard on Fox, well I think there is enough research from alternate sources to corroborate that Jeremiah Wright’s black liberation theology is decidedly not mainstream and typically counter to what most Americans would see as just and proper for the country. I think the fact that Obama sat and listened to that drivel for two decades and considered Wright to be a mentor speaks very poorly for a man that is supposed to protect and defend the nation and its constitution for ALL Americans.

As for Romney and the previous teachings of his church regarding people of color, I think that is absolutely a valid point, sir. I think it is a fair question to ask Mr. Romney accordingly.

That said, it does not invalidate the legitimacy of the questions that were either not asked or asked in passing of Obama as a candidate on his serious matters of character.
07/19/12 @ 14:37

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