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I saw a headline about Bachmann's dual citizenship and simply went about my day. It did not occur to me that the proper response was righteous indignation, but that's to be expected of a morally relativistic, post-national liberal.

Politics is poisoning my mind and wasting my time. I need a break.
05/10/12 @ 01:45
Comment from: Burr Deming [Member] Email
We on the left owe Ms. Bachmann an apology for permeating our culture with post-national moral relativism, thereby forcing her into the arms of the Swiss.

I believe I speak for all such relativistic permeators. I am appalled, Ryan, at the possibility that our permeation may also have contributed to the poisoning of your mind, necessitating the break of which you write.

Does that mean you will be free to generously write more frequently for us? We may as well benefit from our guilt.
05/10/12 @ 05:26
Comment from: Jack Jodell [Visitor] Email · http://jackjodell53.wordpress.com/
Those on the far right, including that horribly naive and wholly ignorant Michele Bachmann, have a very twisted perception of what is and what isn't "patriotic." In Bachmann's case, how can an American patriot possibly hold high elective office here in the United States while simultaneously holding dual citizenship from another country? To which master is she serving?

I sincerely hope the entire crazed Marcus Bachmann clan will permanently emigrate to Switzerland, never to return here. They have proven time and again they do not understand democracy, and our country would be far better off without them around.
05/10/12 @ 12:56
Unfortunately, Burr, all of my contributions here have been political.

The Heathen Republican once said to me:

"If you have a fear of 'divisive, undesirable politics' you are in the wrong country (and the wrong internet). You may need a thicker skin."

I don't need a thicker skin; I can bear it. But I resent what it does to me and others and I think it gets us nowhere--at best. There is much better material to allow into my mind than what the likes of Krikorian, John Houk, and Chuck Thinks Right produce.
05/10/12 @ 15:32
Comment from: JMyste [Visitor]
Ryan,

I hope you see this. Everyone always things whatever oneself is reading at the moment is the greatest thing in the world, so I am hesitant to suggest someone should read a book unless my intention is to imply they are ignorant and in need of training (which I admit is a low-toned desire).

You are neither ignorant, nor in need of training, but in this case, I am going to recommend a book anyway. It will not "teach" you anything you don't already know, but it may release some of the pressure these political discussions causes to build up. It may be a good remedy to the “poisoning” of your mind.

Of all those on the web I have encountered so far, your philosophy, reasoning and rational education seems to most closely mirror mine. I read some of your articles in shock that I did not write them. Sometimes I fear I did. I have taken to leaving a hair on my keyboard and checking for it in the morning. I you post something while I am away, but the hair was still on my keyboard when I logged in, then you are not me. It turns out, much to my surprise, that you are not me. I cannot state this with certainty, of course, because I recently discovered that I am an epistemological buffoon. However, I think you are not me.

Back to the book: The Righteous Mind written by “moral” [cognitive] psychologist Jonathan Haidt. He is moderate who moved to the center, by his own claims, perhaps slightly to the right of center, while researching The Righteous Mind. Prior to that, he was a die-hard liberal. The book is the documented result of a series of scientific studies trying to explain how people (started out with how conservatives) could possibly think the way they do in face of overwhelming contrary evidence.

He begins by marching through the recent history of cognitive psychology (where he thought relevant. He largely ignores Festinger and focuses more on Paiget and Kholberg, and Plato, just for grins).

If you are like me, and I think you are like me, assuming you are not me, then you have read tons of books related to cognitive theory. What sets this book apart from others, at least the others I have read, is that it is hypothesis-driven more than historical. Most treatments of the topic, tell you of some experiments, repeated over and over, and the outcomes that lead us to our knowledge of cognitive traits in humans. They do not tend to challenge anything. Instead they tell you “how we know.”

Haidt’s work cites the experiments as they unfolded, and ventures into the unknown. He does not just tell the reader what we know now, but takes the study to the next level, and then hypothesizes what it may mean. There is a comfort in this. Every time I read another book on cognitive psychology I am reassured (it is confirmed. Ahaahahaha), that we are all biological machines responding to our human nature. Burr Deming knows about the economy. He has it all figured out. The Heathen Republican knows the opposite, but also has it all figured out. John Myste does not know. That is his “knowledge,” his Truth.

It is OK to disagree. The poison will flow off you with a mellifluous swoosh once we remind ourselves that none of us are Right, and that it’s our human nature to be wrong and to embrace our wrongness as the Truth.
05/11/12 @ 10:17
John,

Yes, it is OK to disagree. What bothers me is how people choose to do so, how little interest they seem to have in learning or finding common ground, and how forgiving they are towards their own group for the offenses that they condemn among others. These are all elements of tribalism, which I detest. Unfortunately, exposure to tribalism often breeds more of it, so sometimes the best course of action is simply to avoid it.

You might be surprised to learn that I have very little education in philosophy and psychology and have read virtually nothing on cognitive theory besides an occasional Wikipedia article. With the exception of news articles, that actually sums up my reading habits in general. Your recommendation, however, has weight, so I will look into this book--if I can remember to do so.
05/11/12 @ 14:58
Comment from: JMyste [Visitor]
Ryan,

I am surprised, but I still recommend the book. It is excellent and scientific, which I think you can appreciate more than some, who only seek to confirm their philosophy (everyone here excepted, of course).
05/13/12 @ 09:14

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