In response to T. Paine's Torture, Non-Torture, and Terrorism
Attempting to cause someone agony to force them to relinquish information is torture. Deciding that water boarding does not fit the mold is silly. If Obama had endorsed water-boarding and Bush had called it torture, all Republicans would also call it torture, and so would most Democrats. The main real argument for it not being torture is that FOX says it’s OK if Bush allows it.
- - John Myste, July 7, 2011
So does this also mean that playing "Lady Gaga" repeatedly to captured terrorists would constitute torture? I know that would cause me great agony. I would definitely spill the beans if my captors would relent and stop the hideous music!
- - T.Paine, July 7, 2011
Playing Lady Gaga is definitely torture and should not be allowed in civilized society.
However, your point that some unpleasant things may not be torture does an adequate job of proving that water boarding is not torture. I was under the mis-apprehension that purposefully causing someone agony was torturing them. Now that I know about Lady Gaga, it would seem there is really no such thing as torture and my mistake was in thinking otherwise. If some things are not torture, even though we don't like them, then torture does not exist. I concede to you that torture is a myth and that inflicting agony on someone in an effort to extract data from them is OK.
... furthermore, I like the flavor of diet coke much better than its sugary cousin. I hear aspartame kills brain cells, but I have extras, so I am not worried about it.
Your additional argument that we have tortured our own soldiers for training purposes is noted. How many days were they trained against their will again? Drowning is torture by the estimation of some, but they don’t know about Lady Gaga. By the way, we have also gassed our own soldiers for training purposes, and yet we are not allowed to poison the enemy in a similar manner. We did not kill our soldiers. The gas was less extreme.
In conclusion, I would like to repeat what I have learned: there is no such thing as torture and Lady Gaga is guilty of torturing T. Paine, and it is OK if Bush tortures the enemy so long as he also tortures some friends.
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