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Comment from: Tim McGaha [Visitor]
http://timsthoughtfulspot.blogspot.com

"The correct question I should be asking is why God said it was wrong."

Exactly. And, further, this is the question every Christian should be asking themselves. The rules aren't arbitrary, each one has a reason and a purpose. "Don't murder" and "don't steal" are fairly obvious. "Don't eat pork" has a good reason behind it: if you eat undercooked pork, you get sick and die.

The bit about blended fabrics sounds weird to a modern reader ... but remember, back in the day they didn't have treated fabrics. Modern fabrics are treated so that all the fibers shrink at the same rate. In olden times, if you wove a cloth of two different fibers, it'd be ruined the first time it got wet. The injunction against blended fabrics was an injunction against waste.

So, what was the original reason forbidding homosexuality? It goes against the command, "Be fruitful, and multiply."

There are seven billion of us. I think we can tick that one off as "mission accomplished."
12/30/10 @ 06:49
Comment from: JMyste [Visitor]
Tim, I don't know if that analysis is right or wrong, but it is very intelligent. Wow!

It makes me want to learn more about quarks and dark matter.
12/30/10 @ 08:24
Comment from: JMyste [Visitor]
To all readers. There is a "more" link "sometimes." If you find this more link, DO NOT click into it. That will ruin the cohesiveness of my opinion.

If you read the article without clicking "more," you see what I saw when I read it and said: "Wow! I wish I had written that."
12/30/10 @ 20:47
Comment from: oso [Visitor]
In a post the other day I tried to describe a simple faith in God as a believer viewing lack of faith as "silly".

I don't consider atheists or agnostics "silly" or regard their viewpoint as in any way negative, but I do have that simple faith.

Many years ago an American shared the experience of flying with an Indian, the American describing soaring over the treetops.

The Indian listened then patiently explained "Men go under trees, not over them".

Each saw the other as childlike, and within their own view of the world each was right.

My faith may make me the under the tree guy in my dealings with fundamentalist homosexual hating war loving Christians, I consider them contrary and annoying.

My faith also might make me the under the tree guy in my dealings with atheists,with their logic telling me of soaring over the trees and my faith explaining one goes under trees, not over them.

Happy new year John and Burr.
12/30/10 @ 23:32
Comment from: Jack Jodell [Visitor] Email
http://jackjodell.blogspot.com/

God's word is absolute, but he gave each and every one of us a free will to exercise as we see fit. BUT - He also preached many times over, especially through His son, Jesus - to love thy neighbor and to put others before ourselves. He NEVER advised anyone to persecute or discriminate against gays, or to take it upon oneself to be His judge, jury, or prosecutor. Somehow, the rabidly anti-gay fundamentalists just don't get the message. I say, live and let live. There is far too much hatred in the world!
12/31/10 @ 16:07
Interesting analysis, Myste. I absolutely understand and even to a certain degree find myself in agreement with your assertions, at least in the opening salvos of such a debate as you posited.

Then again, over the years of my experiences and research I have found that often times, reason only serves to strengthen my faith.

I am an engineer by education and occupation and a staunch believer in science. I am also an atheist that found God and converted to Catholicism years ago.

I find that rather than science and faith being contradictory towards each other, when looked at closely they support each other in a duality. Indeed God's universe is an incredibly ordered and mathematical one.

The reason that the men speaking Farsi and Mandarin cannot relate or understand each other is because neither cares enough to put forth the gargantuan effort needed to find common ground so that they can build a dual understanding, if not agreement, from that point going forward.

Lastly, I find myself in agreement with Mr. Jodell's statement and wish that more folks would live by such a code.
01/02/11 @ 18:27
Comment from: JMyste [Visitor]
T. Paine,

I definitely do not want to begin the second installation of our saga, but I would like to point out that intelligent scientific-minded Christians such as you, are exactly what Atheists need, if they want to win their iconoclastic war against religion in America.

Without men like you, the atheist would have nothing. Nothing!

I just know I am going to regret this, but my tongue was bleeding. I had to let go, if only briefly.

[For anyone who doesn't know, Paine and I already had the world's longest written debate about certain aspects of religion. He did very well for a wrong fellow].
01/03/11 @ 18:39
Comment from: T. Paine [Visitor] Email
"...I would like to point out that intelligent scientific-minded Christians such as you, are exactly what Atheists need, if they want to win their iconoclastic war against religion in America."

That is a fascinating assertion, Myste, and one that I am tempted to spend the time addressing in rebuttal, if I were only motivated to do so at this moment.

Fear not though, my friend, as my Opus on God and Science being a duality rather than a dichtomy is forthcoming soon. Naysayers will be unable to compete with the searing logic of my arguments then... or so I pray!
01/06/11 @ 14:53
Comment from: JMyste [Visitor]
If you think it would help, Mr. Paine, I will also pray that your logic is indestructible.

I guess in the spirit of the Opus, I must combine logic with faith to establish my certainty of your logic's indestructibility.

On behalf of all agonistics and atheists in America, I would like to thank you for pursuing this. It just makes things a lot easier.

Respectfully,
J
01/10/11 @ 00:21

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