Fondly Remembering Obama – 3/6/2017

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1. This is one of the few true accomplishments of the Obama administration.

   That said, any president that had acquired the intelligence of bin Laden’s whereabouts and then failed to act, would have been completely irresponsible and a failure as commander in chief.

   In other words, Obama did what he was expected and supposed to do… for once.

2. Oh… and the fact that the Obama administration chose to release operational security information to the public (i.e. SEAL Team 6 carried out the raid and some of the details of the raid) only served to put special forces operators in jeopardy for the sake of bolstering Obama’s ego as commander in chief.

   1. It’s not surprising we find a case of Obama doing his job, then the accusation of treachery soon follows.

      put special forces operators in jeopardy for the sake of bolstering Obama’s ego

      Another Breitbart/Bannon “alternative fact”? Just an opinion? Or is that a fact? Evidence would be appreciated.

      Did Obama also wiretap Trump to further “bolster his ego”?

      That sounds like it should be true too, since Obama ruined our country after the peace and prosperity Bush left him. This all suits the “arrogant buffoon” image quite well.

      Alternative facts are so useful….

      1. Found you dear leader dave., can’t delete me here can you. 😉

         A short history of Obama’s bugging and wire taping
         * The US National Security Agency bugged a private climate change strategy meeting; between UN Secretary General Ban Ki-Moon and German Chancellor Angela Merkel in Berlin;
         * Obama bugged Chief of Staff of UN High Commissioner for Refugees (UNHCR) for long term interception targetting his Swiss phone;
         * Obama singled out the Director of the Rules Division of the World Trade Organisation (WTO), Johann Human, and targetted his Swiss phone for long term interception;
         * Obama stole sensitive Italian diplomatic cables detailing how Israel’s Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu implored Italy’s Prime Minister Silvio Berlusconi to help patch up his relationship with US President Barack Obama, who was refusing to talk to Netanyahu;
         * Obama intercepted top EU and Japanese trade ministers discussing their secret strategy and red lines to stop the US “extort
         In 2013 the liberal Washington Post expressed outrage after the revelation that the Justice Department had investigated the newsgathering activities of a Fox News reporter as a potential crime in a probe of classified leaks. The reporter, Fox News’ James Rosen and his family, were part of an investigation into government officials anonymously leaking information to journalists. Rosen was not charged but his movements and actions were tracked.

         * Also in 2013, members of the Associated Press were also a target of the surveillance. The ultra liberal New Yorker even noted that “In moderate and liberal circles, at least, the phone-records scandal, partly because it involves the dear old A.P. and partly because it raises anew the specter of Big Brother, may well present the most serious threat to Obama’s reputation.”
         * Reporter Sharyl Attkisson said in 2014 that her personal computer and CBS laptop were hacked after she began filing stories about Benghazi that were unflattering to the Obama administration. A source who checked her laptop said the hacker used spyware “proprietary to a government agency,” according to an article in the New York Post.

         WikiLeaks tweeted overnight that the Obama Administration spied on their journalists as well:
         https://twitter.com/wikileaks/status/838661776526880768/photo/1

         1. Thank you, Major.

            My knowledge of wiretap law is sketchy. My understanding is that wiretaps on Americans can only be gotten by appropriate agencies who obtain a warrant. Even wiretaps on Americans in foreign intelligence investigations are not easy to get.

            Most of your examples don’t seem to involve Americans. It is worth taking a brief look at those that do.

            Sharyl Attkisson may not be your best example. I’m going by increasingly faulty memory, but I think the “source who checked her laptop” was never revealed, and there was no reason that it wouldn’t be. I remember reading that her suspicions were founded on a deletion of part of her work that she had not made herself. An investigation concluded that the deletion was caused by the backspace key being stuck, rather than remote spyware. That may not have been reliable, though. It was based on examination of her keyboard. She never allowed her employer or outside investigators to look at her computer. She stuck by her story, though. Good for her.

            I don’t think the Fox Reporter involved a wiretap. That was an investigation intended to find the federal employee who exposed the existence of a top information source within the N. Korean government. The Fox reporter was never under threat of prosecution: including the fact that he received stolen classified information was necessary to find the government source. As I recall, the federal employee was either prosecuted or suffered some sort of administrative penalty. No word on the fate of the N. Korean. Presumably, it was horrible.

            Same sort of deal for the AP reporters. No wiretap. A government employee had exposed a spy the British had managed to place within the top level of al Qaeda. He had just secreted information to us that prevented an airliner from being blown up. Fortunately he managed to escape after being exposed. No idea of how many more terrorist deaths would have been prevented if he had been able to stay.

            But we do value freedom of the press, right?

            We ran a piece on both situations a few months ago. Although I too value press freedom, I don’t much care for the high fives and back slapping among those who so thoughtlessly exposed intelligence sources who were already in harms way.

            Use on blog sites by ideologues in partisan arguments is okay, though.

   2. How did those details bolster his ego? They have nothing to do with him. If anything, details about who did it and how they did it shifted attention away from him to the people who actually carried out the mission and gave opponents more information that they could use to criticize him and suggest that it was actually Bush who should be praised for the operation.

      I am certain that, had Obama not released any details, conservatives would have been at least as critical as they were, demanding instead to know who was “really” responsible for killing bin Laden (something something “brave soldiers,” something something “deserve credit”) and speculating that he was hiding operational mistakes from the public.

      I understand conservative resentment toward Obama over ideological differences, but you all went–and continue to go–too far with everything else. He was branded as evil and wrong from the beginning and every action he took thereafter, including any action that Republicans would praise under a Republican president, was viewed through that lens.

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